One Positive Aspect Of The Mets Season
The one thing we never got to see with Generation K was Jason Isringhausen, Bill Pulsipher, and Paul Wilson in the same rotation. In fact, we have never seen them all in the same pitching staff. That never happened because of all the injuries they suffered. Then we saw Isringhausen and Wilson traded in successive years to help the Mets chances of winning a World Series instead of them pitching the Mets to the World Series.
Whatever you want to call the group of Mets young starters (most seemed to like the Five Aces), they never appeared in the same rotation. The closest we got was seeing Matt Harvey, Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard, and Steven Matz in the same rotation in 2015. Coincidentally, that was also the year the Mets went to the World Series on the strength of their pitching.
The reason Zack Wheeler was not a part of that group that went to the postseason was because he suffered an injury in Spring Training. In fact, Wheeler would be gone for two years rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. For a moment, it seemed as fait accompli the group would never pitch in the same rotation because Wheeler was almost traded to the Brewers with Wilmer Flores for Carlos Gomez. In fact, if not for Gomez’s hip, the dream would have died there.
Still to this day, we have never seen the five in the same rotation. However, we have seen them all pitch in the same season in the rotation. It may not seem like much, but it’s something. It’s also a step closer to seeing them all in the same rotation. It may finally happen next year.
Matz should be ready for Opening Day after the surgery to repair his ulnar nerve. This was the same surgery deGrom had last season, and he was able to last the entire season injury free. Both Harvey and Syndergaard were able to return and pitch before the season was over. Like in 2015 and 2016, the only question is Wheeler.
In the end, the Mets are a step closer to having all five of their proverbial aces in the rotation. At a minimum, they are a step closer to seeing them all on the same pitching staff. If it does happen, one of the open wounds Mets fans have suffered will close a bit. Howeve,r that wound will not fully heal until we see this group pitch the Mets to a World Series title.
I think 2 will be traded….
If they do, it won’t be this offseason.
Buy low sell high….
I am not signing Familia to be my potential WS closer.
I want a tradable contract or no thank you….
So, with the Mets building up beyond 2018 for 2019
I AM LISTENING TO OFFERS THIS NOVEMBER FOR FAMILIA
what else is tradable via selling high?
I do not think Wheeler knows how to use his pitches. I hope he has a good spring for a trade…. I have more confidence in Matz but his injuries are not just his elbow, who is taking the chance unless someone needs a lefty as a visiting division team playing in Yankee Stadium? Toronto?
Last spring no team wanted a bat…
Yet the past springs where pitchers are a glut the Mets are lookng for to trade…
They can not keep everyone until trading deadline?
They are not dealing deGrom, Flexen or Noah?
What are they looking for in a position player young, SOLID for a playoff run and what do they realistically have to deal to get it?
Who {what teams} needs one or two starters rebuilding or building up?
I am dealing my slow, average defender, position players in a heartbeat!
I am dreaming of a catcher who throws out 35% of base stealers…. He hits .230, OK!
People focus waaaaay too much on stolen base percentage. On a per pitch basis, throwing out base runners is 0.7% of a catcher’s responsibilities.
I never saw a WS winner that did not swipe bases at opportune times.
I am old wrinkled and only build teams (my thoughts) to win a WS.
Sybe you can list the WS winners from the last ten years and their CATCHERS and back up catchers?
Difference between having a team who can swipe bases at opportune times and focusing on a catcher’s ability to throw out base runners.
Keep in mind, d’Arnaud’s arm
in no way affected the Mets ability to win in 2015
Yeah, look at the stats in the WS.
They road Cespedes to the second round, opportune pitching and DANIEL MURPHY lead by example and his production.
CUT THE BULL CRAP!
Since Citi opened, that year and late run WC and faster exit…
THE RESULTS ARE IN BBREF
LOOK UP THE BASERUNNING KC VS METS!
Btw, the KC pitching location was two leagues apart from the Mets,.. A site to see
Travis – WS, zero runs scored, one RBI and a .143 OBP on one hit in five games.
In response to my saying d’Arnaud’s inability to throw out base runners had no impact on that series, you present nothing that contradicts my statement
https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2015_WS.shtml
KC 25 runs scored the guys who scored 13 of them stole 7 bases!
Mets had one stolen base…
Mets ride Murph to WS over young Cub team completely out-pitched
Mets then regressed in 2016
Mets in 2017 dumped all of their FAs to be in 2017 for none of them could offer a return to the playoffs in 2018….
A FLASH IN THE PAN
METS BACK TO WS IN 2019: 2% chance….
WHY DO NOT SHOW EVERYONE THE METS RECORD IN THE 11 years at CITI FIELD…
PLEASE?
Of the seven stolen bases in that World Series, only one of them scored a run after stealing a base.
You can point to SB and caught stealing percentage all you want, but even the information you present contradicts your argument.
Fine, keep up the great work at Citi Firld drafting, trading, player development and international signings.
Do not pursue speed
Do not pursue a catcher that can pick off runners
Do not play small
Do not drag bunt
Do not bunt into the shift
Do not situation hit
Hit and run once a week
Never throw inside where it hurts
Do not play angry
Do not play with passion
and
Definitely play like garbage on afternoon games!
Just lead the league in HRs and finish 30 games behind the Nats.
Mets, you will not win this division for a long time….
You have no Turner nor Eaton under control batting 1-2….
You do not need table setters….
YOU HIT THREE RUN HOMERS WITH NO BODY ON BASE DOWN FOUR RUNS IN THE EIGHTH!
YOU DO AS DAVID WRIGHT DID….
Where did I say any of that?
All I’ve said was catcher’s ability to throw out base runners is vastly overrated.
Yep, the Yankee home record is sick, over 50 wins…
Maybe Tampa and the Blue Jays want
Or playoff opponents?
Do the Mets draft lefties?
Absolutely. Their first round draft pick this year was one.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/13/the-mets-preliminary-plan-for-their-first-round-draft-pick/
And
From St Lucie to Bing to LV
I saw ONLY lefty Ben Griset with quality stats, high pick in last four years and a reasonable WHIP!
Disgraceful!
Griset, a 13 rounder from TB….
Puke!
P.J. Conlon