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Mets Third Base Solution Is Robinson Cano

With Anthony Rendon and Josh Donaldson being free agents, you should expect every team who needs an upgrade at third base to be pursuing them heavily. That is everyone expect the New York Mets. The Mets have all but said they’re not pursuing either player, and they are not prepared to exceed the luxury tax threshold.

Getting the obvious out of the way, this is unacceptable. There is really no excuse for the Mets to not at least realistically pursue either player. That said, that is exactly where we are leaving the Mets to find  “creative” ways to find someone to replace Todd Frazier at the hot corner.

Based upon Brodie Van Wagenen’s comments, that replacement is going to be an internal option. Looking at things, that is a scary proposition.

J.D. Davis simply cannot handle the position defensively. In 220.0 innings at third last year, he posted a -9 DRS. To put it into perspective, that is actually worse than how Wilmer Flores played the position, and back then, Mets fans were screaming to move him off third.

The other option mentioned was Jed Lowrie. Even mentioning his name is bizarre. Last year, he was limited to eight plate appearances and was not able to play in the field. At the moment, you are hard pressed to find a reason why the Mets can count on him any more than they can count on Yoenis Cespedes as the Mets readily admit they still do not know what is wrong with Lowrie.

The other name mentioned was Jeff McNeil. Due to his versatility, the 2019 All Star who had a 143 wRC+ and a 3 DRS at third is a very viable option for the position. However, for a moment, lets put a pin in that.

When looking at third base, the one name which hasnt’ been mention, but perhaps should be mentioned is Robinson Cano.

Last year, Cano had a bad year by any measure. Due to multiple stints on the disabled list as he battled hamstring issues, he played a career worst 107 games (in a non-PED suspension season). The 93 wRC+ was the second worst of his career, and the -6 DRS was the worst defensive year he has had since 2015. In fact, this was just the second negative DRS he has had since 2008.

With Cano coming off an injury plagued season and with next year being his age 37 season, we should hardly expect those defensive numbers to improve. With second being a fairly rigorous position, you wonder if it would be better for Cano to switch positions to one which would allow his legs more rest, and in turn, would help him offensively.

Looking back to when Cano came off his PED suspension in 2018, that is exactly what the Mariners did. From August 14 until the end of the season, Cano would play 41 games. His breakdown of those games were: 2B (23), 1B (14), 3B (2), DH (1). Yes, Cano’s primary position was second, but he only mainly played second.

Getting the obvious out of the way, there is no way Cano is an answer at first base as Pete Alonso is firmly entrenched there. As for DH, except for isolated interleague games, there is no long term solution at DH. That leaves third.

At the moment, there is little more than conjecture to see if Cano can handle third on a long term basis. We could look at hit -2 DRS in 2018 as evidence he can’t, but that’s as small a sample size as you get. Moreover, that was with him being thrown at the position with little to no preparation.

Through it all, we should remember Cano is a smart player with good hands and a strong arm. His real issue is his range and durability. This is not too dissimilar from what we saw with Asdrubal Cabrera. Cabrera wasn’t exactly great at third last year with a -4 DRS in 812.0 innings, but it should be noted it was a lot better than the -17 DRS he put up at second base the preceding season.

When it comes to Cano, you can reasonably expect him to be not just a negative defender at third, but also worse than McNeil. However, that is only part of the equation. Taking a more global view, McNeil at second and Cano at third probably presents the best possible defensive alignment while presenting Cano with a position less strenous on his legs thereby keeping him in the lineup more.

If you think about it more, this is a move which is going to have to be made eventually. Cano is signed through the the 2023 season, and he is signed for a lot of money. Looking at the team, they need his bat in the lineup to be successful. To that end, the Mets need to find the best way to both keep his bat in the lineup and help ensure his contract is not more onerous than it already is.

Looking at everything, the solution is to move Cano to third base. That is unless the Mets are actually going to do the right thing by pursuing Rendon or Donaldson.

16 thoughts on “Mets Third Base Solution Is Robinson Cano”

  1. Oldbackstop says:

    Cano had a phone call with Brodie before agreeing to being traded. Part of that wasnt sceewing the padding of his HoF numbers by moving to third base, where he has 2 entire games in 15 years.

    The Mets have excellent third base options in Mceiil and JD and Lowrie. We are fine there. JD would get smoother given tim, and his bat will demand a place, he is set for an Alonso type season. There is zero chance Cano will be moved. Rendon and Donaldson will get stoopid big contracts that we should be putting toward pitching.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      There is no reason to believe Davis can play the position, and there’s no reason to believe Lowrie can play at all.

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        JD was a 3rd baseman in the minors. Had he been given a full year, he might have been ROY. He’ll be fine 5here. If not him, McNeil. If not either of them, Lowrie. You dont bring in our 5th third baseman with the last of our FA treasure. Pitching, centerfielder, catcher, if the right fit on the last two. Third base we need about as much as we need first base — not at all.

        1. Oldbackstop says:

          JD slashed 307/.369/527/.895 being bounced all over. He is Alonso’s bestest bud. His natural position is third base. Dont be driveling all winter with this idiocy. Talk about pitching.

          1. metsdaddy says:

            Davis can’t play third, and with that BABIP, he’s going to regress

          2. Blair M. Schirmer says:

            @Oldbackstop Pitching is going to continue to be a problem. With payroll already around the mid170’s by Wilpon accounting, there isn’t even the money for an arm like Justin Wilson.

            That means the Mets are going to have to hit the scrap heap and international leagues, the minor league FA markets, the Rule V drafts, and minor league trades just to stock up on AAAA arms and hope to find a replacement level 5th starter–all things van Wagenen doesn’t appear to have any idea how to cultivate.

            For 2020, anyway, the Mets choice of pitching coach will probably be more important than their choice of manager. There are enough live arms in the system and additionally available through other means to put together a tolerable bullpen—but the Mets seem bent on collecting inexperienced guys who won’t challenge Wilpon with actual ideas and input, and it looks like Chris Fetter, 33, a college pitching coach, is actually the frontrunner.

            This is a .500 team that appears bent on going with the weakest possible support system for the players on the field. The ineptitude is something to see.

        2. metsdaddy says:

          There is nothing to suggest he can play third base at the MLB level

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            They’ll be fine. You worry too much. You were fretting about JD Davis all year long….he wound up hitting .307 with an .895 OPS. With a full year he would have had 30 HRs. The year before he won the AAA batting title at .347, 60 something points higher than Alonso in the same league.

            I know you are pulling for him. Stop fretting. We are loaded at the corners. We need pitching.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            Mets are far from loaded.

  2. Oldbackstop says:

    At any rate, what is it you are suggesting? Move Cano to third, where he as played all of two MLB games, and sign Anthony Rendon for 7/210 plus? So in 2013 we are paying a 34 year old and a 40 year old $50 million?

    You act like Cespedes and Lowrie don’t exist. We are paying them $50 million in 2020. If they are healthy they are probably our best corners, aside from Alonso. It would be moronic to keep stacking payroll at those positions when we have gaping holes in the rotation and bullpen. If Cespedes starts and plays center, that leaves Rendon, Cano, Lowrie, Conforto, Nimmo, JD Davis and McNeil to play 2b, 3b, LF and Rf. Maybe some one of them besides JD can pitch, you are thinking?

    1. metsdaddy says:

      For all intents and purposes, Cespedes and Lowrie don’t exist. Expecting them to play is a fool’s errand. As such, move forward and construct your team with that understanding

  3. Blair M. Schirmer says:

    Cano at 3B? Sure, put it on the list of possibilities, but it’s just as surely way down the list. At least as likely to work is bringing up Giminez and living with his bat. As for what’s likely, McNeil is the only player currently on the Mets who was healthy last year who has a good chance of putting up at least average defense at 3B while hitting well. Davis was enormously lucky as a hitter on balls in play and his D at 3B is atrocious. He’s going to disappoint most casual fans in 2020. You do much better overall with Davis in LF platooning with Dom Smith and keeping McNeil at 3B than you do with Davis at 3B and McNeil in LF, which also cuts down on Dom’s PAs for no good reason.

    For now, assuming no significant offseason acquisitions to the current $174m payroll (using MLBTradeRumor arb raises, and not bringing Panik back), figuring Guillorme is the bench guy in at SS, 2B, and 3B and McNeil is the starter at 3B, the Mets depth chart for 2B, 3B, and LF looks a lot like:

    2B — Cano, Lowrie, Guillorme
    3B — McNeil, Lowrie, Guillorme, Rosario, Davis, Cano
    LF — Davis / Smith platoon, McNeil

    Davis is an emergency 3Bman, but no more than that. Rosario can play 3B as part of a late inning shift. You don’t want to try him at 2B unless you’re completely out of options, as that’s how you lose your starting SS for the year on a high slide. Does Cano bump Davis out of the #5 slot at 3B? Maybe, but who cares? A lot has to go wrong for Cano to end up as the starter at 3B.

    The Mets have an obvious alignment. You hide Davis and Smith’s defense in LF. McNeil starts in 3B. Cano starts at 2B.
    If Lowrie’s healthy and Cano collapses, play Lowrie at 2B. It’s fairly straightforward, overall.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      If we’ve learned anything over the past decade plus, it’s you can’t just hide incapable defenders

    2. Oldbackstop says:

      @blair: you think Smith is a better LFer than Davis?

  4. oldbackstop says:

    Okay, let’s put on our big boy pants.

    According to SpotTrac, we have 37 guys rostered for 2020, and estimated 11 million under the luxury tax.

    Rendon alone would be $30 million. That puts us $20 million over the luxury tax line. There is little realistic chance the Mets will do that. Yes, they get insurance, maybe, on Cespedes and Lowrie….or maybe they don’t, and those two just sort of suck all year for $40 million.

    So you are $2011 million over, don’t have a fifth starter, haven’t helped the bullpen, and haven’t done anything about bolstering defense in center, at catcher, or maybe at SS.

    Setting aside catcher — Rendon is going to start. Conforto is going to start. Cano is going to start, he didn’t agree to waive his no trade in order to play third or first or ride the bench. Alonso is going to start. Unless we upgrade, Rosario is going to start. Unless we ungrade, Nimmo is going to start at CF. Those guys should expect 150 games a year, they aren’t guys you are going to rotate on to the bench.

    That leaves left field for Dom Smith, Jeff McNeil, JD Davis, Jed Lowrie, Cespedes. Lowrie and Cespedes, if healthy, are going to be making a total of $40 million. The Wilpons don’t leave money on the bench. All five of those guys deserve more than 300-350 at bats.

    Yes, some injuries will happen. Some of the old guys and recovering guys could get a bit more rest than they may like. But you have blown all the treasure without a fifth starter, bolstering the bullpen, upgrading centerfield….with Rendon over Fraser, you are only marginally upgrading defense at third.

    You have 37 guys signed at 196 mil with 11 million left. Stop the magical thinking and come up with free agents, trades, or salary dumps with 11 million in the bank.
    Meanwhile, thanks to Rendon, we are

    You have, however, given yourself five

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Actually, it would leave LF for McNeil.

      Neither Smith nor Davis can handle LF on an everyday basis, and under no circumstance can you rely upon Cespedes or Lowrie being able to play.

      If anything, you just furthered the case for Rendon.

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