Jacob deGrom And Pete Alonso An Indictment On Brodie Van Wagenen

When Jacob deGrom was officially announced as the 2019 Cy Young Award winner, the New York Mets officially had the Cy Young winner and with Pete Alonso, the Rookie of the Year. With the Houston Astros accomplishing the same feat with Justin Verlander and Yordan Alvarez, it is something which has only happened 14 times in Major League history.

The 2019 Astros won the pennant. When they pulled off the same feat in 2015 with Dallas Keuchel and Carlos Correa, they won the American League Wild Card Game.

The 1983 White Sox had LaMarr Hoyt, Ron Kittle, and the American League West title. The 1981 Los Angeles Dodgers had Fernando Valenzuela and a World Series title. The 1965 Dodgers had Sandy Koufax, Jim Lefebvre, and a World Series title.

That leaves the 1994 Royals (strike shortened season), and the 1976 Padres as the only teams who had a Rookie of the Year and a Cy Young winner to not make the World Series. Digging deeper, things are much worse.

There have been three teams in Major League history who have had a player win a Cy Young and have another player hit 50 homers in a season. The first was the 1961 Yankees who had Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, and Whitey Ford. The next was the 2001 Diamondbacks who had Luis Gonzalez and Randy Johnson. Both the Yankees and Diamondbacks won the World Series.

Basically, if you have a Cy Young winner and a Rookie of the Year, especially one who hits 50 homers, that team goes to the postseason. Not the 2019 Mets. While they made a late season surge, they ultimately came up short. What makes that all the more inexcusable is they went all in on the 2019 season trading away significant prospects in Justin Dunn, Anthony Kay, Jarred Kelenic, and Simeon Woods Richardson while taking on the very onerous Robinson Cano contract.

That’s to say nothing of the Mets trading away a full year of control of Alonso for two weeks of games without agreeing to a Scott Kingery type of contract or other form of forward thinking.

Anyway you look at it, the 2019 season was a complete failure for the Mets. It’s a sentiment Van Wagenen himself shares. The Mets had the best pitcher, the top rookie, and a host of other good players who had good years, and yet, they missed the postseason. No matter how you look at it, this is an indictment of Van Wagenen.

0 thoughts on “Jacob deGrom And Pete Alonso An Indictment On Brodie Van Wagenen”

  1. Oldbackstop says:

    (Eyeroll) it is two guys out of 40, or at least 25.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      I’m assuming you’re rolling your eyes to see the point which sailed over your head

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        Sigh…indictment? He had one year. The team in improved by 8 games. He was stuck with a coach and staff not of his choice. His closer imploded and his CFer Nimmo missed more than half the year. His highest paid slugger missed the whole year, Cespedes. His highest paid FA bat missed the whole year, Lowrie. How many first year GM would you have indicted on an 8 game improvement?

        1. Bart Scrivener says:

          alternative titles to this article:

          “WE DESERVE BETTER and ARE THE SMARTEST FANS EVER: How Mets Fans Are Somehow More Embarrassing Than The Mets”


          “2019 Mets 3rd Team EVER With CYA Winner AND 50+ HR Hitter: LET’S COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL OF IT”

          1. metsdaddy says:

            I fully encourage you to visit metsblog. The Wilpon owned and operated site will give you exactly what you want.

        2. metsdaddy says:

          Yes, indictment. He completely mortgaged the future to win in 2019, and he poorly executed that plan leaving the team with a short bullpen and little depth.

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            Nah, not Brodies fault. Don’t worry. Callaway babied the starters to the point where the bullpen was overworked. He was pulling Vargas out of 2 hit shutouts with 85 pitches.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            It’s not the GM’s fault he built a flawed and shallow roster?

          3. Bart Scrivener says:

            the Wilpons are a disgusting blight … I would LOVE to simply Never Know They Even Exist if it were not for the fact that they own The Baseball Team I Love …

            however, THE WILPONS are the problem with the Mets. They are an atrocity of the highest order.

            Pretending BVW is some singularly destructive abomination — which is what you do, regularly here AND on twitter — misses the point so badly that it almost seems intentional

            what I “want” is new owners

            you thinking Metsblog is what I “want” — because of the WILPON OWNERSHIP — no less, proves just how disassociated you are with the Mets fans who criticize your “smart” criticism

          4. metsdaddy says:

            Just because the Wilpons are horrid doesn’t excuse Van Wagenen from his own incompetence.

            And yes, considering you take issue with fair and well reasoned criticism of the GM, Metsblog is much more your speed.

  2. Oldbackstop says:

    Brodie was handed a lousy hand of cards…a 78 win team in a division with three powerful teams with high priced FAs and young superstars. He was handed Cespedes and Callaway. This easily could have been a 4th place, 78 win team looking at an utter tear down.

    Brodie shook the tree, which is going to mean some things work and some didn’t. He wasn’t handed a team that needed a few tweaks to compete. He might make some dumb moves again, but he will be moving and shaking all winter. Maybe next year he will get solid seasons out of Lowrie and Cano and his credit rate will improve.

    Beltran is looming like an utter possible disaster. You first time manager might be starting as a convicted lying cheater under suspension

    David Wright for manager. If you told him the club needed him, he’d take the job.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Brodie was handed a talented and cheap young core, loaded farm, and payroll flexibility.

      Rather than be patient and prudent, he went to take care of his former clients while decimating the farm and payroll flexibility.

      There is no way to defend Van Wagenen for the job he’s done. In fact, when looking at it, he should’ve been fired already.

      1. Bart Scriv says:


        “Payroll flexibility” is a good one.. !!!!

        He had the “flexibility” to spend either ZERO dollars or ZERO dollars and one cent or ZERO dollars and two cents!

        Look at those options baby!


        Also love the concept of you pretending that you know anything at all about his motivations … “HE JUST WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF HIS OLD CLIENTS” is the exact type of criticism a complete moron would make … right: a guy who spent his whole life making it to the TIPPPY TIPPPY top of the Financial and Professional Ladder suddenly decided “and now its time to hoodwink an owner to hire me as GM and then SIGN FOR AND TRADE FOR ALL MY FORMER CLIENTS!!! BooooooowaHhhhhhaahhahaha!”

        Also, what disaster it was for Brodie to get Former Client DeGrom to sign a way below market extension Am i right???

        1. metsdaddy says:

          I get it. You want to ignore all evidence and troll.

      2. Bart Scriv says:

        LOL I love how insanely condescending you are to ppl who say things like “wait a minute… you are saying the guy who has been here for 9 months is entirely RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE MLB ROSTER and FARM SYSTEM???? … that’s crazy!”

        Either you A) legit believe that which makes you a freaking moron or B) are trying to do your best Mike Puma impersonation but with 0.0000000008% of the readership


        1. metsdaddy says:

          Not sure what you’re compensating for here, but I hope you get the help you need to overcome these issues and find much constructive ways to direct your anger than lashing out at others.

          1. Bart Scriv says:

            Nobody cares about whether you care about me getting “the help I need”

            they care about your Mets analysis sucking ass

            and all I am saying is I think you’d have more readers if you stopped pretending to be KNOW IT ALL GUY WHO MAKES SOME STUPID ARGUMENTS BUT DOESNT ADMIT IT AND JUST PRETENDS HES ABOVE IT ALL GUY LOL

            I’m trying to HELP you

          2. metsdaddy says:

            I sincerely hope you get the help you need

  3. Bart Scriv says:

    also, why are you even wasting everybody’s time with this nonsense?

    you don’t truly believe BVW is SOLELY responsible for 100% of the construction of the organization because NOBODY could possibly believe such a thing. My 3 year old niece would literally laugh in my face if I suggested such a thing …

    And yet: you LITERALLY made that very argument at 1:54 pm earlier today in the comment section.

    What’s the point? Who are you trying to fool? Why not argue with people in actual good faith?

    I don’t get it

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Please stay far away from that child

      1. Bart scriv says:


        just know that I know that you know what a joke that argument is

        and it kills you

        cuz you KNOW that you are sooooooooo much smarter than that (which is true, btw: you ARE so much smarter/better than that)

        1. metsdaddy says:

          You’ve done nothing but troll here

          1. Bart Scriv says:

            Keep going!

            More more more!

  4. kevin mcpartland says:

    OK, I think BVW was a bad hire to begin with. He’s a terrible G.M. The Cano trade alone should get him fired, but let’s face it the Wilpons won’t
    won’t. But my friend, You can’t compare this year to an era where there were ten teams in a league or six teams in a division in a 12 team league. And the fan base would’ve killed The Mets had Alonso not broke camp with the team. I’m 59 years old. I don’t know how much more time I have left on this rock, but as much as I’d love another World Series win, the team we have now have talent, depth and a esprit de corps you don’t find in baseball today

    1. metsdaddy says:

      The previous eras did have fewer teams making the postseason, and when looking at the modern era, the Astros did it twice recently and made the postseason each time.

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