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Mets Should Investigate Trading Asdrubal Cabrera For Starlin Castro

Considering how the offseason has moved at a glacial pace, the Mets remain uncertain about what they are going to do at both second and third base.  Largely, that decision rests on exactly what the Mets elect to do with Asdrubal Cabrera.

Given his injuries and his age, both the Mets and Cabrera know he is no longer suited for shortstop.  Even if he were, Amed Rosario is going to be the Mets shortstop for the next decade.  That leaves either second or third for Cabrera.

Based upon the numbers last season, Cabrera belongs at third.  In 350.1 innings at third last year, Cabrera had a 1 DRS.  Conversely, in 274.1 innings at second, Cabrera had a -6 DRS.  Based upon this information, this would lead you to believe the Mets should leave him at third, and the team should pursue a second baseman.

The problem there is the top talent remaining on the free agent market are third baseman: Todd Frazier, Mike Moustakas, and Eduardo Nunez.  With his history of back injuries and his -5 DRS in 796.2 innings at second last year, former Met Neil Walker also belongs at third base.

Ideally, you don’t want Cabrera to play second, but you don’t want to enter the season with Jose Reyes as the team’s top second base option.  Sooner or later push is going to have to come to shove.  With that being the case, why not at least investigate a less than desirable option?

After being traded to the Miami Marlins as part of the Giancarlo Stanton trade, Starlin Castro has voiced his displeasure, and he has requested a trade.  Certainly, those calls will only be heightened after the Marlins recently traded away Christian Yelich.  While you understand the demand, there does not appear to be a real market for him.

There are a few reasons for that with the main one being Castro has not yet developed into the player many believed he would one day be.

The main issue is he has not proven to be a good second baseman.  Over the past two years, he has posted a -6 and a -8 DRS in successive seasons.  Typically speaking teams would accept a lesser fielder at a position if they were a good hitter.  The jury still remains out on Castro.

For his career, he is a below average hitter with a 97 wRC+ and a 98 OPS+.  While these stats are league and park adjusted, people will still likely lament his putting up those stats in hitter’s parks like Wrigley and Yankee Stadium. If you dig deeper, you see Castro profiles similar to Wilmer Flores offensively in that he beats up on left-handed pitching, and he struggles against right-handed pitching.

Considering the Mets already have Flores for much cheaper, it does make you question why you would even consider targeting Castro.  The answer to that question could be because it would help the Mets improve their 2018 ballclub at little cost to them.

While Castro has struggled defensively at second, he still promises to be much better than Flores, Reyes, or Cabrera at second.  While he has proven to be a platoon bat, so has the Mets internal trio.

However, unlike the Mets trio, Castro was an All Star next year, and unlike Reyes and Cabrera, at 27, he’s entering his prime.  And remember, Castro hit .323/.363/.516 in the first half last year.  Much of that fall off could be attributed to a leg injury that plagued him throughout the second half of the season.

Point is, there’s reason to believe there is room for improvement for Cabrera.  With him only making $2.4 million than Cabrera next season, it is worth investigating a trade that is centered around Cabrera for Castro.  Considering the relatively meager returns the Marlins have accepted for their big time outfielders, it may not be as ridiculous as it may seem.  That goes double when you consider Castro is due $11.8 million next year with a $1 million buy out if his team does not pick up his $16 million 2020 option.

Overall, for just $2.4 million next year, the Mets could really improve their second base situation, and they could still have room to add a Frazier in free agency.  More than that, with his working with Pat Roessler, they may obtain something reasonably close to the 2017 first half Castro.  Considering the position the Mets are in at the moment, it is certainly worth a risk.

49 thoughts on “Mets Should Investigate Trading Asdrubal Cabrera For Starlin Castro”

  1. Luis says:

    TJ?? Is he an option as well?

    1. metsdaddy says:

      TJ is an option but only when he’s healthy. He’s recovering from TJ surgery, and while he says May 1st, we really don’t know when he can return.

    2. joe k says:

      Why would the Marlins want Asdrubal.??

      1. metsdaddy says:

        Salary dump who is a potential trade piece.

        Personally, I don’t see it as a one-for-one. I think the Mets would need to include one minor prospect to get it done. Considering the Mets would be in a position to drop a Cecchini if they sign another player or two, I’d look to see if the Cabrera-Cecchini package gets it done.

        1. Nessim Toledano says:

          I dont believe Cecchini would get the job done. The Marlins would be looking for someone who looks like a real shot to be a major leaguer, and Cecchini no longer fits that description.
          Because he’s still young, he still has a chance to bounce back. But right now, I don’t think anyone anywhere sees him as a real major league starter anytime soon (except maybe over-optimistic Mets fans). The onus is on him now to outperform his past and show that he is capable of more than he’s shown thus far.

          1. metsdaddy says:

            That’s a fair point, but the question should be asked if the Marlins are in a position to get more than Cecchini.

  2. OldBackstop says:

    I get it, but I’ll just list my random thoughts:
    — it isn’t really $2.4 million more, its that this year plus $27 million adding 2019 and 2020.
    — Cabrera and Reyes and Flores all came up as shortstop with that level of athleticism, and they haven’t had steady time to learn second or third.
    — Committing to Castro for three years cockblocks Cecchini and Luis Guillorme, the gripe in your last article.
    — Reyes, it seems largely ignored, was en fuego the last half of last year, outperforming basically everybody brought up as a FA or trade. He hit for a higher BA, OB, OPS, more runs, and…..
    — was fifth in the NL with stolen bases, a desperately needed skill on the Mets. Castro had two stolen bases all year. Castro has been in single digits for five years.
    — I don’t know what happened with Castro last year, but he only played in 112 games. Reyes and Cabrera led the Mets in games played by a significant amount. Wilmer was fourth after a freak broken nose. We need guys that can stay on the field.
    — why would the Marlins possibly want Cabrera when they are in a teardown? I like him, but he was on the fire sale market all last summer and the Mets couldn’t move him. And we’d have to add prospects?
    I love our outfield, and if Gonzalez and Reyes played at 80 percent of their career totals and Rosario grows into his minor league numbers. I have no problem mixing and matching Cabrera, Reyes, Wilmer, Cecchini and Guilorme at second and third.

    Sorry if this seems edgy. Aside from that, all for it. 🙂

    If we have to participate in the Marlins firesale, I would look at Realmuto if we can find a way to move either Travis or Plawecki. But I wouldn’t give up young pitching which would be their ask.

    Otherwise, I would take our remaining treasure (ha) and get a vet pitcher like, oh, off the top of my head, Alex Cobb if we can get him to three years.

    I enjoy your stuff.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      1. 2020 is an option
      2. Castro has more athleticism than that group right now.
      3. Castro requires a 2 year commitment, and he can probably shift to third next year making room for Guillorme or Cecchini in the event they are ready.
      4. Reyes had a good September only. That shouldn’t offset four years of data.
      5. Reyes has a low OBP thereby negating much of the value his speed presents
      6. Castro had a hamstring issue. That was after two healthy seasons. He’s had a better track record than Reyes and Flores in his career.
      7. Cabrera represents savings for the Marlins in this swap. Mets could also entice with a Cecchini or something else to get it done.

    2. Nessim Toledano says:

      I’m not sure what world it is in which Castro would be blocking Cecchini or Guillorme.
      1) The idea seems to suggest that at least one of these guys is a legitimate major league starter, something which is currently a big question and far from expectation.
      2) Even if one of them does become a starter, neither of them has done anything to indicate that it will be anytime soon. Cecchini needs to bounce back and have a good year just to put himself back into the conversation. and Guillorme has not even played a single game in AAA yet.
      3) Castro would only be here for two or three years, There is absolutely NO reason the younger prospect can’t play a back-up role until Castro leaves. The club would still have several more YEARS of control over that player.

  3. OldBackstop says:

    Yes, you are right, it is 16 million or he can buy it out for one million. So, in that case Castro would cost $20 million plus Cabrera and Cecchni.

    My problem isn’t the money, although it needs to be remembered that money is a problem. I’d glad for at infield upgrade at Moustakas prices. I just don’t think he’s an upgrade offensively over Wilmer or Reyes, or defensively over Cabrera or Cucchini or Guillorme — and those guys are both entering their Age 24s, right?

    Castro is not an elite defender, his dWAR is minus 0.2 over the past three years. He has no speed — 11 steals in the past three years. (context, Jay Bruce 15 steals past three years) And, really crazy stat, he has only ATTEMPTED six stolen bases in his last 289 games. It’s not a part of his game anymore. Just look at Cabrera….8.3 oWAR over the last three years, Castro 5.5. If you evened out games played Castro 0WAR would be well under Reyes, Wilmer, and Cabrera. I think Cabrera and Reyes were very impressive last year….they don’t look like fading vets, Jose was swiping 24 bags and Cabrera hit .280 for the second year in a row (and they were on the damn field, 1-2 in games played) If we are going to break up those five insanely inexpensive guys, it has to be an UPGRADE.

    And I haven’t even mentioned one of my favorite guys, TJ Rivera, He Tommy Johned in Sept, but position players don;t need a year. I really like his bat.

    And then there is a dismissed sexual assault and this little issue:
    By John Arguello, December 27, 2014 at 2:02 pm. Starlin Castro questioned, but not involved, in another shooting incident. Here we go again… Although information is scarce right now, it appears that Starlin Castro is once again indirectly involved in a shooting incident at a nightclub in his native Dominican Republic.

    And now he is “demanding” his third trade in three years.?
    I think I tend to obsess on the money (ha ha, not as much as Fred) and worry about signing our young pitching in the next few years.

    What do think about Realmuto? Would they take Lugo/Plawecki or something?

    1. Gothamist says:

      Considering all of the press, player association issue, what kind of return would Jeter need on remaining starters?

      Can he dare trade Realmuto or Castro?

      Cabrera dWAR at second base is >0 and Castro is <0.
      Cabrera plays an adequate 3rd base.
      Castro has not played SS in years. Cabrera looked broken down since summer 2016 at SS.
      Castro does score runs but stats do not scream out about speed nor HRs.
      Team situational hitting, specifically bunting and SFs, I would take Cabrera.
      Cabrera is passionate, well liked, a leader and like Reyes is trusted by Cespedes
      Cabrera’s post season stats are no conclusive yet Castro has 3 RBI, low OBP in 88 post season appearances….

      It has been since 2014 has Castro had a WAR of 3.0 or greater…

      1. metsdaddy says:

        Realmuto and Bour are still of high value, especially with their contracts.

        Marlins don’t want to pay Castro

    2. metsdaddy says:

      To be fair, Castro never demanded a trade until he found his way to the Marlins

    3. Yankee fan invading Mets land says:

      Castro did not demand 3 trades in 3 years. He was a Yankee for the last 2 and he was very happy here.

  4. Gothamist says:

    Castro is signed thru 2019.

    The poverty stricken, mid market Mets:

    What starter or potential closer on the Met roster is signed for 2019 in a multiyear deal?

    Is a supposedly 27 year old Castro is steady decline fielding range, power and never post season clutch worth taking on an extra $13M for 2019 and a 2020 $1M buyout?

    If we had an extra $13M to spend vs potentially get mundane returns on a second base only player for 2019 could the Mets easily afforded Carlos Santana at $47 for three years ($60-$13)

    or Lorenzo Caine at $67 ($80-$13) for five years?

    1. metsdaddy says:

      I think it’s worth taking a flyer on a player entering his prime. There was a time people loved his tools. If you believe in your coaching staff, Castro is the calculated risk.

      1. Five Tool Ownership says:

        So many are overly excited of his past and if you did not know his age you would see significant decline, few if any sabermetric pluses, traditional statistical pluses, no position flexibility and TO BELIEVE HE IS IN PLAY – loss of recognition of Mets MO since Madoff.

        He only played a short time in the Bronx and is not missed.
        No Yankee fan will travel to Corona to see him play!

        What tangible support can anyone make to acquire him? Based on previous Met decision making?

        The Mets see their attendance as mostly fixed, not affected by a reasonable range of possible team performance, they are past fear of losing the team, they are entrenched in NYC sports and are maximizing using Sterling Cash to diversify into Islanders, eGames, residental real estate and developing around Citifield.

        THERE IS OPPOSITE SUPPORT AGAINST THE METS TAKING ON STARLING CASTRO’s $13m obligations past 2018.

        (They stopped spending on one year deals for they had a one year $13M Jay Bruce obligation – in 2017 – INCREDIOUSLY UNPRECEDENTED!!!)

        1. metsdaddy says:

          The tangible support is he’s an improvement over what the Mets have, and he’s a player entering his prime

          1. Gothamist says:

            No freaking way!

            I prefer Reyes, excellent second half, more mature and his first half was effected by his legal woes!

            YOU CAN NOT SUBSTANTIATE A THING!

            Castro was involved in a death of a third party…
            Besides, I can give two shits about Castro!

          2. metsdaddy says:

            Reyes has not been a good player in order five years, and he’s in his mid 30s. Players that old don’t get suddenly better.

            As for Castro, he was at a nightclub where there was a shooting. He was exonerated by the video which showed him not involved.

            As for the Dominican Republic police, they are highly corrupt and have a reputation of trying to shake down famous players. They’ve also been implicated in 90% of organized crime cases. https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/90-percent-police-organized-crime-dominican-republic/

            And if you want to judge a player by one half of baseball, look at Castro’s first half before his leg issues. Is that better or worse than Reyes’ second half?

        2. Yankee fan invading Mets land says:

          The statement that the Yankees don’t miss Castro is the silliest statement I have heard in a while. We do miss Castro. 2nd base is a huge question mark right now. But we have Gleiber Torres waiting in the wings. MLB.com has him ranked as the 2nd best prospect in all of baseball. Once he’s in the minors for a little while longer (so we can get an extra year of control on him) he’s going to be up in the majors and starting at second base. THAT IS WHY WE DON’T MISS CASTRO. Don’t get things twisted.

          1. metsdaddy says:

            Yankees definitely didn’t enter the offseason looking to move Castro.

    2. Jesse B says:

      Hi A Mets fan for my whole life (27 years in April) born on opening day 91 and birthday on 08 opening day(which I was at), and have seen over 400 games in person via on the road and at shea stadium and citi field and thousands on TV. Just my experience as a Mets fan.
      I agree with your point and have read this site as one of my favorite sites about the Mets it gives an interesting point of view from a fan who likes to breakdown the MLB and the Mets. However, I do have to question the math on Castro and Cabrera as the Mets picked up Cabrera’s 8.5 million club option vs the 2 million buyout that they would have required to pay him also the math seems to focus on his 2017 salary of 7.5 million vs his 2018 salary (guessing on the mistake). The overall contract of Castro left is 22 million with 2018 being 10 and 2019 11 and the 1million buyout vs the 8.5 million 1 year contract Cabrera has which would have a total being 13.5 million difference and a 1.5 million difference in this year. Just want to know the reasoning behind 2.4 million difference as said in the breakdown.
      My view on this is that the Marlins would definitely do this type of deal as they are trying to dump money before 2020 and lessen their financial burden over the next couple of years due to their TV contract expiring by then which is like 30th in all of MLB (Loria messing up another MLB team, guy should be banned on a different note from being an owner). The Mets may have to throw in a sweetner to quiet the Marlins negative PR blast that trading another big contract for low return would bring. Also yes Castro hits way better at Yankee stadium and yes he was horrible last year defensively but I feel most of that was due to the hamstring injury suffered at end of 1st half and small sample size as Castro did hit in the NL with the Cubs. Also his transition to second base has really been short as he has only played their for 297 games most of which was 2016 where he made 12 errors in 150 games in his first full year at second (might I add fans have a tendency to jump on players transitioning to a new position unlike Cabrera who did it when he was older which makes it a bit more reasonable playing a new position in the majors is extremely hard to do and is a major adjustment) Castro is only 27 for next year if he is fully healthy and at second base for a true second full year (not hurt like in 2017) I feel Castro can become a positive second basemen and with a deal like this and signing a guy like Todd Fraiser (misspelt likely) would give the Mets a defense worth watching for the first time in the history of the team (1999 the Mets had 4 good defenders maybe up to 6 and other years they have had a max of 6 but the 2018 with TF at 3rd and Castro at second could have a positive D revamped in the infield (Gonzalez/Bruce/Smith, castro, rosario, TF with Reyes backing up the MI and Flores at 1b where he is better than every 1B i’ve seen since Johnny O) and the outfield (Cespedes, Lagares, Conforto, Bruce) Plawecki is decent behind the plate and if Travis D fixes his throwing finally (might be asking for a miracle) we might have a solid 8 defenders.

      On a very side note: Love how Boras is blaming collusion for the slow market when most of the players slowing down the market are his clients asking for contracts worth tons more than they should and teams wising up on not overpaying long contracts due to how many teams have been burned for angering the Baseball Gods (Fielder, Bay, Pujols, Arod, Sabathia, Elsbury, Choo, Hamilton, Davis, Trumbo, Reyes, Wright, Hamilton, Gonzalez, Kemp, Brown, Pavano, Zimmerman) just to name some from the last 20 years. Martinez is not worth 200m, Arieta not worth 120m, Mous not worth 100m Holland not worth 60m so yeah. Espn wrote an article on the worst contracts in MLB in December that was horrifying and fun to read but it explains why teams don’t want to spend.

      Great moto why pay for past performance rather pay for future performance.

      Last note: Keep up the great posts and lets start baseball already hate offseason’s sometimes

      Reference
      http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/miami-marlins/starlin-castro-7264/
      and
      http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/30450/type/fielding

      1. metsdaddy says:

        As noted, the $2.4 million difference pertained to the 2018 salaries.

        1. Jesse B says:

          link shows castro at 10 for 18 and cabrera is 8.5 = 1.5 not 2.4

          1. metsdaddy says:

            Castro is over $10.8 and Cabrera is $8.5.

    3. Yankee fan invading Mets land says:

      There is no factual basis to suggest Castro’s power is on the decline. He only played 112 games last season due to injury but still hit more home runs than he ever did as a Cub.

      Secondly, unless you are going to completely right off Dominic Smith after struggling in his first taste of the majors than signing Santana would have blocked a Mets prospect much more highly regarded than anyone Castro would have blocked. At least you could theoretically move Castro to 3rd to make room for the younger guys. You can’t do that with Santana.

  5. OldBackstop says:

    Every comment I see talks about possibly moving Castro. He would not look like the offensive bat we would want in that position, and he’d be out of position.

    The problem is, Cabrera is a plus bat but a slightly minus glove, and we already have four or five of those cheaper.
    I’d like to see if our 23 year old prospects are going to work (Guillorme and Cecchini) because they ain;t getting younger. If one of them steps up, we have the middle set for 5 or 6 years.

    Look at ALL these guys, plus Harrison, plus Walker, plus Kipnis, plus Kinsler.

    Who had the best second half? Reyes.

    l

    iCastro

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Cabrera is not a plus bat, and he’s now a bad glove.

      Guillorme is not ready offensively, and the Mets need to completely overhaul Cecchini’s swing.

      Reyes’ stats are skewed by a big Sept, and it certainly should not offset the stats he’s accumulated over the past four years.

      1. OldBackstop says:

        Skewed by a big September? Is there a more wonderful thing to be skewed by?
        Satro has been living on his first two years and his “youth. ” Youth is largely, to me, about being under team control unless we are talking about considering long contracts. Castro will be playing his ninth MLB season in 2918, and he has never matched his 2012 WAR. (when he led the league in caught stealing)
        I don’t mind trading Cabrera if we can find an upgrade, particularly someone with speed.. But Castro ain’t it on any level.
        Metsdaddy, your last article was about the Mets not giving their youth a chance. How does that gibe here? It cockblocks Wilmer, Cecchini and Guillorme.
        And I don’t get why the Marlins would want Cabrera. If its a salary dump they would be looking for a lot more than that.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          1. There are expanded rosters in September making it a lower level of competition

          2. Castro was well on his way to a career year before a hamstring injury. Considering he’s been healthy for most of his career, we shouldn’t react too much to an injury. However, we can be excited about his improved healthy play at his age.

          3. Castro is an improvement over Cabrera in every way – speed, defense, bat, potential

          4. Lost in your argument is Castro is still young. He’s just a year older than Wilmer. As for Guillorme, he’s not ready offensively in 2018, and sadly, Cecchini isn’t either. Both need at least a year in Triple-A. So no, Castro isn’t blocking them.

          4. You can’t argue both Cabrera is much better than Castro and the Marlins wouldn’t want Cabrera in exchange for Castro. Doesn’t work that way.

          1. OldBackstop says:

            “You can’t argue both Cabrera is much better than Castro and the Marlins wouldn’t want Cabrera in exchange for Castro. Doesn’t work that way.”

            I’m assuming this is painfully obvious, but Cabrera is four years older and the Marlins are in a tear down and won’t be competitive this year. Cabrera would be the textbook case of who they WOULDN’T want….a guy with a substantial salary leaving after this year.. Whereas he is tailormade for the Mets — a guy that can start at second or third this year on a competitive team, but won’t be blocking their kids in 2019.

            I’m not sure if you aren’t getting this or just being obstinate. How would you possibly justify this from the Marlins side? You can’t just say it works for one team so it is a trade. Doesn’t work that way.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            You’re arguing Castro is bad and overpaid. Accordingly, the Marlins would do anything to unload his contract on someone and save money.

            And no, a bad defender who can only hit LHP at this point in his career is not what the Mets need.

            The Mets need talent. They need athleticism. They need healthy players. They need to take a risk.

    2. Gothamist says:

      Do you deal Nimmo?
      If not, what do you need to move him?

      I see Cabrera as a plus second baseman and an adequate third baseman 2x of Flores) and a backup right bat at first…

      They said in 2013 that Flores had a great bat but had no projected MLB position. Why he has not been snatched up as a DH by now must mean that he has too little to offer as DH Power, Righty Pitchers or he is a minus fielder in every infield position.

      Cabrera is team first and last year was all on TC.

      TC let him rehab and on the day of the game of first day back THEN the MFer TC tells him he is no longer SS…

      THE BAD PRESS ABOUT CABRERA AND ROSARIO WAS ALL LIES AND CABRERA’s return is about his PLUS CHEMISTRY…

      SUCH IGNORANCE and WORSE zero intuition on the publics end…!!!

      Anyone who plays sports knows how TC dissed Cabrera.
      TC may have pulled the NYG McAdoo Eli Manning benching in Cabrera and was the fall guy but he never took responsibility…

      I like Cecchini to excel but there is something going on there that Sandy never speaks of about Cecchini not being the guy… Maybe he is taking the pressure off and has no expectations… of Cecchini…

      Guillorme must be higher on the Mets internal prospect list than Cecchini?
      Luis may have a shot at Opening Day…

      Kilpnis or Kinsler (already moved) are excellent ideas…
      I prefer a salary dump and to try to keep Nimmo for he may have more ceiling in himself (he started organized ball at 16 years old).

      1. metsdaddy says:

        If Cabrera was team first, he would’ve accepted a position switch last year, and he wouldn’t have demanded a trade.

        The “team first player” only accepted a move to third when he discovered it could be a ticket out of Flushing.

        1. Really? Is this really well thought out? says:

          Sometimes you are clueless, lock into something that no one verified and intransigent!

          Why would the Mets exercise his option?
          For a new manager?
          The manager who treated HIM LIKE SHIT
          You had said TREATED NON STARS LIKE SHIT…

          IF YOU DO NOT ANY BASIS BESIDES WANTING ROSARIO THERE LAST MAY

          THAT YOU IGNORE THE ONLY FACTS

          SHUT UP!

          YOU ARE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF W UNSUBSTANTIATED BS

          What has anyone said since October?

          It was TC!

          1. metsdaddy says:

            Not agreeing with you does not make one clueless, and there is no reason to tell me to be insulting because I don’t agree with your opinion on something.

            And to address your point, you’re wrong.

            It shouldn’t matter that this was because of Collins’ bundling. Cabrera made a decision that was him-first and not team first. After a period of calm and reflection, a team-first player would’ve made the switch.

            I’ll add another thing. It was not smart for him to refuse the switch. With Rosario waiting in the wings, he had to know that sooner or later, Rosario was going to be the Mets SS. If Cabrera really did want to have his option picked up by the Mets, he should’ve proved his value at another position. It’s common sense.

            Instead, he sulked and refused to switch positions until forced. That’s a fact.

    3. Yankee fan invading Mets land says:

      Castro is an actual bat at that position. No one could legitimately dispute the fact that even a Castro who battled injuries wouldn’t have been a huge upgrade at second base for the Mets last year. Nothing has happened this offseason to change that. Would he be the best possible upgrade? No. But compared to what the Mets had last year and what they have now he would be a clear and undisputed offensive upgrade.

  6. OldBackstop says:

    I think there is some basic misconception about Castro — he is NOT a plus fielder. He led the league in errors at SS three times, and at 2nd base he has been second and third in the league. He had a negative dWAR last year.and four of the last five.. He has NEVER played third base in the majors, a scenario you toss in above. Cabrera, Reyes and Wilmer all have time at third base. All the players involved have negative dWARs, but at least the three Mets — all who came up with SS atleticism — have the excuse of having been moved all around the IF into new positions.

    Offensively, over the past three years, he has dramatically lower OPS and SLG totals than Cabrera and Wilmer, and fewer stolen bases than Reyes or Cabrera,

    And his cost over the next two years is much higher than any of them.

    An offensive upgrade would be nice, but this is a guy with a negative glove, little power, no speed., He hits for a plus average and can only play second.

    He is TJ Rivera.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      1. Castro isn’t a great fielder, but at second base, he is light years ahead of Wilmer, Reyes, and Cabrera.

      2. Last year, Cabrera had a 107 OPS+ to Castro’s and Flores’ 106. In terms of wRC+, it was Cabrera 111 to Flores’ 106 and Castro’s 110. Essentially, Castro and Cabrera are even offensively. Considering he’s younger, entering his prime, and much better defensively at second, he’s better than Reyes, Cabrera, and Wilmer.

      3. Castro’s negative glove is better than Cabrera’s, Reyes’, and Flores’. His “little power” doesn’t detract from his being as good a hitter as Cabrera. His speed is much more than what Cabrera and Flores can provide. Defensively, Cabrera can only handle third with Reyes and Flores being unable to handle any position.

      Considering Mets have a better chance obtain a third baseman than a second baseman, it’s better to go with Cabrera.

      4. Much like Cabrera, Flores, and Reyes, Castro is better than TJ

    2. Yankee fan invading Mets land says:

      Little power? He hit 21 home runs the year before last and 16 last season in 112 games. He’s got power.

  7. Herb G says:

    I know I should read all the other comments before leaving my own, but there are just too friggin’ many and many of them are too friggin’ long. So I’ll just give my thoughts:

    I don’t want Castro at 2B for the next 2 years. He is an expensive, sub-par fielder and an average hitter at best.

    IMO, if Cabrera stays, he belongs at 2B, not 3rd. Everyone who tries to justify him at 3B cites DRS, but if you look at another fielding metric, his UZR/150 at 2B was 3.6 while at 3B it was -14.5. That said, I would gladly trade Cabrera if I could find a taker. Miami is not an option, even to get rid of Castro. To me, Texas is the most logical partner. Their regular 2B, Rougned Odor, had a disastrous season in ’17, and to protect against another, the Rangers could use a reliable back up. We might have to send a bit of cash with Asdrubal, but I think we could get Kyle Cody, their #18 prospect or Joe Palumbo, their #12 who had TJS in 2017. Sandy might even induce Texas to throw in an unrated prospect like Ricardo Rodrigues or Jeffrey Springs.

    If able to move Cabrera, I would act swiftly to sign Eduardo Nunez for 2B (less AAV than Cabrera) AND Todd Frazier for 3B. That would give the Mets a huge improvement.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      There’s zero chance the Rangers trade Odor.

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