Todd Zeile Comments About Marcus Stroman Problematic

Todd Zeile covered the New York Mets as an analyst throughout the 2021 season. That left him eight months to say something about Marcus Stroman.

However, now that Stroman is gone Zeile calls him one of the most divisive players in the Mets clubhouse last year. He intimated things in the clubhouse are better just because Stroman is a Chicago Cub.

Mind you, he didn’t say this when Luis Rojas was taking the fall for the purported clubhouse issues. Notably, he didn’t rebut Rojas when the former manager lauded Stroman for being a great teammate.

He didn’t say anything when there were reports of the Mets having a special chemistry. He was silent on Stroman when the narrative emerged the Mets didn’t do more at the trade deadline because they didn’t want to infringe on the clubhouse chemistry.

Zeile also was silent on Stroman when the clubhouse chemistry issue emerged with Javier Báez‘s thumbs down to the fans. There was a perfect opportunity to address team chemistry and issues. Zeile said nothing.

Time and again, Zeile was silent on Stroman’s impact in the Mets clubhouse. However, now with Buck Showalter being hired and Stroman a Cub, he is telling everyone Stroman is divisive.

Zeile sat on this information until the offseason. He sat on it during the many times the Mets clubhouse chemistry was at issue (good or bad). Now, that he never has to face Stroman, he’s more than ready to denigrate him.

This is completely unprofessional, and it highlights Zeile has little to no credibility. He had pertinent information to share in his role as analyst, and he didn’t disclose it.

Zeile didn’t have the courage to say anything while Stroman was a Met. He didn’t have the courage to say anything while the possibility of Stroman returning existed. This is as callow as it gets.

With these comments, Zeile lost credibility. It leaves you wondering what other information is he failing to disclose just to make his life easier. What is he not telling us so he can avoid an awkward conversation with a player?

Mets fans deserve better than this. The Mets players do as well.

39 Replies to “Todd Zeile Comments About Marcus Stroman Problematic”

  1. Metsfan says:

    Why doesn’t Zeile call out the toxic behavior of Lindor? Why is Lindor the golden son who can do whatever he wants without rebuke?

    The Mets were very foolish not to resign Stroman. He’s going to be good for the Cubs.

    I predict the Mets will end up trading Lindor. He has low mentality that neither Showalter nor Cohen will cure.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      That’s a garbage comment about Lindor.

      1. LongTimeFan1 says:


        I agree with MetsDaddy – your take on Lindor is offensive. ‘Low mentality” is outrageous. He’s only 27. He’s not a smooth talker, and not ready to lead as be all, end all, at 27 and in his first year in NY, but the maturity will come as I hope it will in 27 y.o. Pete Alonso, who has repeatedly demonstrated immaturity, but packages it in smooth talking, but utters nonsense.

        And BTW, Zeile did indeed call Lindor out on a number of things during the season.

  2. LongTimeFan1 says:

    Maybe you’re jumping the gun.

    None of us know when Zeile got this information and from whom and how many sources. He could have gotten it this offseason from a host of people no longer with the team.

    Furthermore, Zeile wasn’t shy about criticizing players and others about behavior during the season. Therefore, the premise of your article falls flat on many levels.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      So, you’re rebuttal in defense of him is he’s not a well informed analyst?

  3. LongTimeFan1 says:

    You want it both ways.

    I don’t claim to know when he got the information and how much at what time. And why or why not he either held his tongue or opted to comment when.

    And neither do you.

    I felt badly for Stroman when he announced on Twitter the Mets don’t want him back. I felt badly because Stroman is native New Yorker who wanted to return. But I also thought and think Stroman is big distraction because he takes offense to so many things and seems compelled to tell everyone how great he is…meaning, beneath it all, is insecurity hidden by protective bubble around the narrative he’s constructed. Reminds me of Matt Harvey who did same.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      One of two things are true: (1) he sat on relevant information; or (2) he was not well informed

      For his role, these situations should not take place.

      1. Pal88 says:

        You have no idea when Zeile made his feelings known to Met mgmt. to me it makes sense for him not t make his feelings public during the season it would have blown up to yet another Met disfunction. I personally agree with Todd. I think Stroeman doesn’t fit what the Mets are trying to build.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          Zeile’s job isn’t to inform management. It’s to inform the viewer.

          And you’re both wrong on Stroman

          1. Pal88 says:

            If he informed the viewer during the season it would have BLM banging on the doors of Citifield. He did the right thing making it public when he did. The Cubs can deal with him in Chicago of all places

          2. metsdaddy says:

            Everything you said was ridiculous

    2. nunya says:

      well said. he stroman seemed to take offense to everything. oversensitive so could see him being problamatic in a clubhouse. zeille may not have know before since reporters were not allowed in the clubhouse, could only communicate via zoom so he may have found out after as some may have felt he was at least healthy and gave innings its ok to deal with his bs

      1. metsdaddy says:

        So, Zeile was too uninformed. Point still stands

  4. TheGhostofKelenic says:

    At present Lindor’s contract is not tradable after his last 2 seasons. Low mentality is not what I think you were going for, perhaps you meant low baseball I.q. which I could agree with, but a good manager hides that. It didn’t seem like Rojas or any hitting coach was interested in having the hitters make productive outs. Lack of bunts, sac flies, hit and runs and other examples of situational hitting were all too absent by every Mets hitter last year.

  5. Joe P says:

    Once again a negative article about the Mets. Please go root for another team, it’s obvious you are not a Met Fan. You are ripping Tod Zeille and actually backing Lindor. How in the world can anyone with the slightest baseball IQ or common sense actually back Fransico Lindor.

    The guy is a clubhouse cancer. The guy single handedly ruined last season. First of all HE Sucked last year, he started the thumbs down thing with his idiot friend Baez. Thank God we didn’t resign that fool, he would have reverted right back to the same 250 hitter, 200 strikeouts…who needs more of that. We are stuck with this buffoon for 10 frickin years.

    Back to Zeille, the guy is hanging by a thread for any baseball relevance. Do you actually think he is going to bite the hand that feeds him.

    You do realize that the only reason people read this is to let you know what a schmuck you really are.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Did you just bash the Mets in a replying telling me to go root for another team because I criticized an analyst?

  6. Chris says:

    I think you meant “intimated,” not “intimidated.”

    No one knew when Zeile knew this information. Staff or players could have shared this after Stroman was gone for good so as not to cause even more tension (if Zeile’s reporting in true) in the clubhouse.

    From a fan and viewer standpoint, I am fine with Stroman going. He seemed to only be concerned about himself. From sitting out the shortened season last second and leaving the team scrambling to create a rotation all the way to his antics all year (remember the rain delay fiasco??), he was all about one person. I won’t miss his martyr stance anytime something happens around him. It’s always someone else’s fault. Good luck in his future endeavors .

    1. metsdaddy says:

      If the defense of Zeile is he’s not aware of what’s happening in the clubhouse, you’re further pointing out how unfit for the job he is.

  7. Joe P says:

    Did I bash the Mets…never, I actually love the team. I’m bashing you for the nonsense you spew.

    How could you possibly say what I wrote as bashing the Mets?? You of all people, whose every article is negative. My criticism of Baez and Lindor is honest and accurate. You see, unlike you, my first instinct is to protect the team that I love.

    Lindor and Baez both turned against Met fans…so my comments are actually Pro NY Mets. I didn’t tell you to root for another team because of the Zeille article. Its because everything you write just proves you are not a Mets fans…just a little troll.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Oh, so you can criticize Lindor and no one else.

      Thanks for the rules.

  8. Joe P says:

    Wow, you really have no clue. You comment on one or two words in each readers post and don’t respond to all the other things said. I brought up my undying love for the organization and commented on people who are actually hurting the team we root for.

    In what alternate universe in which you reside can a lowly studio analyst be aware of the happenings in the clubhouse. But you, instead of ripping Stroman for being an asshole. Did you think the Mets would have ever resigned him after that stunt he pulled with opting out. He took the qualifying offer, than opted out costing the Mets a draft pick. , Lindor for having a season worth about 5 mil a year, and Thumbs down Baez, you chose to rip Todd Zeille.

    Every ridiculous word that comes out of your mouth actually backs up everything I said about you. You have a very thin skin for a person who criticizes every reader comment.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Ohh, now I see the pattern with criticizing Stroman and Lindor.

      1. greggofboken says:

        How about spelling that pattern out more explicitly so that people can be clear about exactly what you’re implying above?

  9. Len1961 says:

    I am elated that Stroman is gone.Too bad Linder cannot be traded.Keep McNeil

    1. metsdaddy says:

      That’s insane

  10. Joe P says:

    Hi Greg,

    I’m not sure if you were referring to me in your comment. I didn’t think I had any kind of pattern. What I am is a life long Met fan. I stick with them no matter how bad they are. I may grumble a little bit when they are losing, but I will always remain loyal. No matter what.

    Now if you are a player on the Mets and you diss my team I will call you out for it. You made a statement that I had a “Pattern+ of calling out Lindor and Stroman, don’t forget Baez. Why did I do it.

    1. Stroman: he opted out of the 2020 season just after accepting our qualifying offer. Now we couldn’t collect the much needed draft pick. Boy he sure came back quickly in 2021. He had to because it was his walk year. The virus was still there. Also, how do you feel about those comments basically calling the Mets racist for having no interest in resigning him.

    2. I really don’t have all that much against Lindor except we are stuck with this knucklhead for 10 years at 34 mil per year. He has been below average the past 2 years. This signing will destroy our payroll for years. Plus no mention of the thumbs down incident.

    3. Baez comes to a new team and immediately pulls the thumbs down stunt. Have fun in Detroit with your 250 average and 200 strikeouts.

    If thats a “Pattern” sticking up for my team, well I guess thats a Pattern. Hopefully Greg, you were talking to him.

    Anyway to all real Met fans… Happy Holidays.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Yes, you certainly have a pattern of defending certain types of players while criticizing others.

      1. Joe P says:

        Seriously, again with the pattern. I guess I am guilty of a pattern.

        I defend loyal Mets players to the grave, while I criticize ASSHOLES.

        That’s why I am so hard on you and your buddies, Lindor, Baez and Stroman

        1. metsdaddy says:

          You certainly pick and choose what types can qualify as loyal and what types can’t.

    2. greggofboken says:

      Hi, Joe:

      I was absolutely inquiring this of MetsDaddy. It seemed he was (and continues to) imply something and I was trying to get clarity on what exactly was meant by it.

      In a post where he maligns Zeille for what he perceives as a lack of courage, I would think you — as a reader here — are owed the courtesy of his being direct about exactly what it is that he’s meaning.

      Unless the courage is only something that should be expected of others. Which may well be the case.

      No harm, no foul between you and I. (I liked Stroman, do not particularly care for Lindor, certainly don’t care for Baez, and was appalled at McNeill as well.)

        1. greggofboken says:

          I rarely visit here.

          It is jaw-dropping to me how you choose to interact with the very small group of readers you have to engage with. There’s not a one of them that I’ve seen who raises a point that may not be in lockstep with the sketchy logic that seems to drive your own points, whom you don’t choose to denigrate rather than simply letting them voice their own disagreement.

          When you do, you often resort to ad hominem statements or replay back in the manner of “so what you’re saying is” — and then digress onto some strawman using words and terms they don’t.

          It’s a jaw-droppingly antagonistic style of interaction with your reading community.

          So be it. That’s why you are here, talking to an often empty comments section.

          Meanwhile….there above sits the 2015 schedule. Your posts are full of typos and grammatical errors. What an incredible demonstration of just how little you care.

          Don’t worry. I’ll find other things to do. It is just shocking to see.

          1. Joe P says:

            Great post Gregg, thanks for backing me up. I was sure your comments were directed at him, just wanted to make sure you knew I was talking about him. Thanks

          2. metsdaddy says:

            So, thoughts on Trevor May?

  11. Joel says:

    Don’t expect to learn anything from media.

    Political correctness is the name of the game now, it’s why I ditched the Mets and baseball.

    It’s all entertainment, not sport.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      None of what you say has to do anything with Zeile

  12. Glenn Kassman says:

    Stroman is a cancer who finds racism everywhere and apparently is every bit as divisive as Zeile says he is. Making the issue about Zeile is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Who cares? I’m just thrilled that Stroman is gone.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Zeile has proven completely untrustworthy and should be ignored

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