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Mets Need Francisco Lindor

The Mets need to learn their lesson from last offseason. The attitude was let Mookie Betts play out his contract, and then have the Mets sign him as a free agent once Steve Cohen takes over.

The problem with that line of thinking is you risk a player signing an extension, which is exactly what Betts did. We went to a team in the Dodgers who were happy to hand him a blank check.

If you’re a team who does not go out and get Francisco Lindor, you’re assuming the very same risk. The Mets should not be assuming that risk.

The counter-argument is the Mets don’t need Lindor. After all, Andres Gimenez had an impressive rookie season. Amed Rosario, while being lost at the plate this year, was significantly improved defensively. This is all true while also missing the point.

In 2020, the Mets finished in last place with a 26-34 record. During the course of the year, one thing which should have been made abundantly clear was this Mets team isn’t good enough to win right now. In fact, if the last two years are any gauge, they’re not all that close.

What they Mets need is better players across the diamond. It’s not just a catcher, center field, and pitching issue. Really, aside from the first base glut with Pete Alonso and Dominic Smith and the two corner outfield spots, the Mets seem desperate for upgrades and shifting of players to new positions.

Yes, the Mets could use an upgrade at shortstop when Lindor is the player available.

Since his MLB debut in 2015, Lindor has been a top three player in the sport. He’s been the best infielder, and he’s the best middle infielder by a healthy margin. He is literally everything you want in a baseball player.

By DRS, he’s been the fourth best defensive SS in the game since 2015. By wRC+, he’s the seventh best hitter. Overall, there’s no one better at short than him.

That includes Gimenez and Rosario, and it’s a wide margin between him and those two. By obtaining Lindor, you’re making a significant push towards closing the talent gap in the NL East.

Let’s look at it another way. Since his breakout season in 2017, Lindor has been a .276/.341/.503 hitter. In the three previous seasons, he’s averaged 42 doubles, three triples, and 34 homers.

No shortstop in the history of the New York Mets have ever put up these kinds of numbers. They’ve never done it on a one year career year, and they’ve certainly never come close putting up these numbers on an annual basis. When you think about it, over the 58 year history of the Mets, it’s takes their shortstops 2-3 years to put up the extra base hits Lindor can do in one year.

Here’s another way to examine it. Lindor has a 118 wRC+ since 2017. Over that time frame, only Jeff McNeil, Michael Conforto, and Brandon Nimmo (Alonso didn’t qualify) have a better offensive production.

Over that time frame, Mets shortstops Gabe a 90 wRC+. Getting Lindor would make the Mets lineup deeper and more dangerous. They’ll also be doing that while having a Gold Glove caliber player at the position.

There is no doubt Lindor makes the Mets a significantly improved team. There also should be no doubt he’ll come at a high price. If he’s willing to sign an extension, nearly any price would be worth it. He’s that good.

Anytime you can get a future Hall of Famer in his prime, you have to do it. It is a game changer for the organization, and it can bring your team to another level.

The Mets are certainly familiar with that concept. Gary Carter helped them win a World Series. Mike Piazza took them to back-to-back postseasons. Carlos Beltran helped lead the Mets to one at-bat from a World Series. Hall of Fame talent significantly improves your team and your postseason chances.

The Piazza and Beltran examples are especially illustrative. With Piazza, the Mets already had Todd Hundley. With Beltran, the Mets already had Mike Cameron. Rather than be happy with the status quo for a team not good enough to win, the Mets improved on a strength, and it led to a better future.

That’s Lindor right now. Yes, the Mets may very well be served to go forward with either Gimenez or Rosario. However, with all due respect to both, neither of them are Lindor, nor are they close.

If the Mets want to truly win now, they should be making every reasonable effort to get Lindor in a New York Mets uniform.

32 thoughts on “Mets Need Francisco Lindor”

  1. Chris says:

    I like a trade for Lindor too. I don’t know what the Indians want but they could take their pick of several players like Nimmo, Davis, Rosario, Matz, Gsellman, or minor league prospects, excluding the catcher.

    Then if Cohen is up for FA spending: get Springer for left, McCann (c) and Bradley for cf.

    Sign Porecello and Walker for sp…I’d pass on Bauer and Stroman (who I feel quit on the team). Maybe see if they can swing a trade for a younger sp.

    1. Mets Daddy says:

      Stroman didn’t quit on the team. He opted out to protect his family.

      1. oldbackstop says:

        Fauci said maybe April for the first vaccine, elderly and at risk and healthcare workers first. I assume they’ll get around to healthy athletes about 2023.

        So Stroman will be sheltering in place until COVID is eradicated, cuz he loves his family so much more than the rest of the Mets?

        Ok, he’ll stay home next spring/summer when Covid is still around? Good to know.

        1. Mets Daddy says:

          Fits your pattern

      2. Chris says:

        He opted out for FA money.

        1. Mets Daddy says:

          That’s not true

  2. oldbackstop says:

    .
    ..263 .333 .398 .732
    .258 .335 .415 .750
    ..252 .272 .371 .643

    Gimenez 0.5 2020 dWAR
    Lindor 0.5 2020 dWAR

    Gimenez 1.0 2020 WAR
    Lindor 0.8 2020 WAR

    2nd half, 2019:
    Rosario, .319/.351/.453/.804
    Lindor: .274/.317/.525/.842

    Number one Mets prospect: SS Ronnie Mauricio, ETA, 2022.

    Can Lindor pitch?

    1. Mets Daddy says:

      Please tell me again how J.D. Davis is really athletic and will be a good defender. That’s almost as funny as your insight into Mets young players.

      1. oldbackstop says:

        Fauci said maybe April for the first vaccine, elderly and at risk and healthcare workers first. I assume they’ll get around to healthy athletes about 2023.

        So Stroman will be sheltering in place until COVID is eradicated, cuz he loves his family so much more than the rest of the Mets?

        Ok, he’ll stay home next spring/summer when Covid is still around? Good to know.

      2. oldbackstop says:

        Actually, I put numbers, not opinions.

        Young Mets? Reprint that article where you advocate trading Alonso, Dom and Gimenez for Cano and Haniger. Bring on the wisdom !!!

        1. Mets Daddy says:

          I’m not remotely shocked the president of the JD Davis Fanclub looks only at extremely small sample sizes which only fits the narrative.

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            JD is not part of this. In tetms of small samples, after 44 ABs you were…with a straight face…..saying Guillorme was heading for a .400 batting year akin to…..several ti.es you mentioned….Ted Wiiliams. From that point on Guillorme batted .067.

            What have you learned about small samples since then?

          2. Mets Daddy says:

            Your history of biased and highly flawed analysis is part of this

          3. Oldbackstop says:

            Can you answer a simple question? Are you counting on Stroman to play next year if we sign him and the pandemic is still going? Yes or no?

          4. metsdaddy says:

            I’m not dignifying your nonsense with a response.

  3. Chris says:

    stroman ran his mouth…saying the Mets were the team etc…then gets hurt, then opts out. Could have used him. I think he’s a talker rather than a doer. I am not buying the covid excuse…to me it seems it was all about the Benjamins…pass.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      You’re not buying the truth and instead are opting to say negative things about him that are clearly false.

    2. Oldbackstop says:

      Chris….take this exactly how it is meant given the room here, but any non-moron without a head injury and having a few hairs on his balls would see that in a second. 🙂

      Oh, and Yo-C heroically left to search for Nicole Simpson’s murderer, you heard that as well, right?

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        So, just checking here, you denied comparing Guillorme to Ted Williams, and when I linked here to your own article, you deleted it?

        1. metsdaddy says:

          I deleted your saying the same thing repeatedly.

          As for Guillorme, no, I didn’t compare him to Ted Williams. If you got that from that one blurb, reading isn’t your thing.

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            Lol…..I put up a link to your own article and the commentary! Which you have apparently heavily edited. That is one way to look smart, I guess.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            Because you now realize I never said what you’re accusing me of, you’re now accusing me of editing it?

            Maybe just learn how to read instead

          3. Oldbackstop says:

            YOU SAID ABOUT GUILLORME: “”””Starting on August 11, he played in six straight games. Over that stretch, he hit .588/.636/.706 with a run, two doubles, four walks, and four RBI. He walked (4) more times than he struck out (3). With that stretch, he had a seven game hitting streak, and he improved to a 199 OPS+ on the season. At .458, he was at least flirting with being the first Major Leaguer to hit .400 in a season since Ted Williams.”””””

            From the day you posted that Guillorme batted.067.

            There are five comments notated to that post, largely mocking your Ted Williams reference. There are now two comments remaining, one of which is yours. Only you can delete comments, correct?

          4. metsdaddy says:

            Maybe reading isn’t your thing.

          5. Oldbackstop says:

            It was a long paragraph. I’ll summarize. After Guillorme had 44 at bats for 2020, you said:

            “””””At .458, he was at least flirting with being the first Major Leaguer to hit .400 in a season since Ted Williams.”””””

          6. Oldbackstop says:

            You then deleted the uproarious comments mocking you.

            You now are mocking me for using 2020 seasons as a small sample.

          7. metsdaddy says:

            Reading definitely isn’t your thing

          8. Oldbackstop says:

            After Guillorme had 44 at bats for 2020, you said:

            MetsDaddy: “””””At .458, he was at least flirting with being the first Major Leaguer to hit .400 in a season since Ted Williams.”””””

            My reading is fine. Baseball is definitely not your thing. Tells us more about changing diapers at CitiField.

          9. metsdaddy says:

            You quote me thereby showing you can’t comprehend what you’re reading

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