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20/20 Hindsight: Mets Somehow Still Alive

Well, the Mets took two out of three from the Phillies. As a result, the Mets next series actually matters. So there’s that. Here’s some more:

1. This is just the third series the Mets have won all year and the first against a team other than the Miami Marlins.

2. The fact they did it with Jacob deGrom leaving due to injury and Seth Lugo being terrible is a near miracle.

3. The deGrom start was a tough one because it probably cost him the Cy Young, which will also hinder his Hall of Fame chances.

4. Raise your hand if you had Erasmo Ramirez and Chasen Shreve as the Mets two best relievers this year.

5. As far as the starting pitching, we haven’t seen much of a tangible impact from new pitching coach Jeremy Hefner, but we have seen him help relievers with pitch utilization and locations.

6. That’s not to say the bullpen has been good because it hasn’t. However, they came up big in a series when deGrom and Lugo didn’t pitch five innings combined.

7. There’s a lot to unwrap from Lugo’s start including how the Phillies hit four homers off of him and his decreased velocity as a starter. While this bears mentioning, we need to see more before drawing any conclusions.

8. Lugo even being in the rotation is another indication of just how awful a job Brodie Van Wagenen has done and just how much he has stripped the Mets of quality rotation depth.

9. Jed Lowrie and Jarred Kelenic finished their Mets careers with the same amount of hits and innings in the field.

10. Articles trying to explain why Steve Cohen’s money may not matter and why he won’t spend right away are trying to be a little too cute and are very disingenuous in their premises.

11. Also, Cohen is getting approved because he’s going to be the wealthiest owner in the game, and he bought the Mets for more than any North American sports team has ever sold. People telling you his approval is because of the respect Fred Wilpon has in the game are embarrassing themselves.

12. Wilson Ramos has seemingly struggled more than anyone being separated from his family. It’s a real shame he has dealt with these issues.

13. Its a good thing J.D. Davis had that big game on Wednesday because he’s been basically terrible since August 1 costing the Mets games with his ground balls and glove.

14. Over the last month, Davis is hitting .253/.360/.411, and Jeff McNeil is hitting .360/.442/.584. Naturally, McNeil bats seventh and Davis third. It’s because it’s not about winning, but rather about Van Wagenen.

15. With Davis and Pete Alonso struggling, at some point the uncomfortable conversation needs to happen about how much the juiced ball impacted their 2019 production.

16. Anyone calling Brandon Nimmo a fourth outfielder doesn’t know anything about baseball.

17. With Dellin Betances likely exercising his $6 million player option, and the Mets having to buy out Ramos for $1.5 million and Robinson Chirinos for $2.5, the Wilpons have left a nice $10 million tab for Cohen.

18. The extra postseason spots made sense in a 60 game season, but it will be a disaster going forward. So naturally, Rob Manfred wants it.

19. Looking through the years, under this new proposed format, you’re going to get under .500 teams in the postseason on a routine basis. That’s bad for the sport.

20. The Mets have to play the best baseball they possibly can to even have a chance. Given the matchups against the Braves and Rays, their chances aren’t good, but we’re Mets fans, so we’re going to watch and hold out hope.

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2 thoughts on “20/20 Hindsight: Mets Somehow Still Alive”

  1. oldbackstop says:

    Ok, let’s see.

    3. The deGrom start was a tough one because it probably cost him the Cy Young, which will also hinder his Hall of Fame chances.

    I give no fux over individual laurels. I would take one pennant over any Met winning ten MVPs and being a unanimous HOF selection. But for the sake of argument:

    — out of 81 HOF pitchers, only 7 have less than 12 seasons…6 deadball Vet Committeers and whatever committee put Satchel Paige in. Jake is in year 7 at Age 32.

    — out of 81 pitchers, only 10 have less than 145 Wins….8 relievers and two deadballers. (Jake has 70, so he would need 75, or 5 seasons at his highest season win rate to get to the level (Age 32, remember)

    — out of 81 pitchers, 25 starters have a career winning percentage of less than .583, and those were almost all guys with 20 seasons or were pre-WW II. However, on the above two….obviously the horrible win stat is fading, kudoes to Jake.

    — out of 81 pitchers, Jake’s current career ERA is in the top third. But while that is almost determinant in an annual CYA, there are so many factors over deadballers and 1890ers and relievers and comparing him to guys with 20 years or 300 wins, I’m not sure that is a cinch in.

    — his innings pitched of 1157 would have to be roughly doubled to get to the bottom tier of starting pitchers in the HOF.

    — CYAs are definitely a positive, don’t get me wrong, but they don’t outweigh post-season heroics, which is what got a Sandy Koufax in…….three World Series championshipsand two WS MVPs…..

    Lastly, look ahead to his direct competition by age, which may be Kershaw, Scherzer and Strasburh, all of whom have much better “traditional” stats, aside from ERA.

    Basically, to be a secure candidate, Jae will have to double his career from here, adding some post seasons performances while maintaining his ERa. I wish him luck..

    8. Lugo even being in the rotation is another indication of just how awful a job Brodie Van Wagenen has done and just how much he has stripped the Mets of quality rotation depth.

    Lol……again….he lost his 2 and 3 due to no fault of his and after he could do nothing about it in trade. The number 4, Matz, who you wanted to give a 5 year extension, has pitched to a 8-something ERA. He is in my thoughts and prayers today. The other two, Porcello and Peterson, have been either as advertised (Porcello) or a pleasant surprise ( Peterson). Wacha has apparently not totally healed, but his four inning relief job Wednesday kept the season alive. Brodie did fine with horrible luck, in a unique year when trading was all but impossible, where a GM can shine.

    11. Also, Cohen is getting approved because he’s going to be the wealthiest owner in the game, and he bought the Mets for more than any North American sports team has ever sold. People telling you his approval is because of the respect Fred Wilpon has in the game are embarrassing themselves.

    The owners don’t want a franchise they have to slip $25 mil to under the table so they make payroll, as they did some years back with the Wilpons.

    16. Anyone calling Brandon Nimmo a fourth outfielder doesn’t know anything about baseball.

    Well, he isn’t a CF. Once we get one, we have Conforto in RF, and Nimmo ain’t bumping him. That leaves LF, where he will be competing for playing time with McNeil and Dom. So…..5th OFer, actually?

    17. With Dellin Betances likely exercising his $6 million player option, and the Mets having to buy out Ramos for $1.5 million and Robinson Chirinos for $2.5, the Wilpons have left a nice $10 million tab for Cohen.

    Oh dear. That is is 0.0040816326530612 percent of what he just paid for the Mets.

    18. The extra postseason spots made sense in a 60 game season, but it will be a disaster going forward. So naturally, Rob Manfred wants it.

    This week I’m a big fan of it. It think next year you could do something like the three division winners, and four wildcards who play a quick one game round to determine the 4 seed. The fan interest is just getting into the postseason, not whether you get one or two games guaranteed.

    19. Looking through the years, under this new proposed format, you’re going to get under .500 teams in the postseason on a routine basis. That’s bad for the sport.

    Why? Feels good right now.

    What is bad for the sport is fans wandering away in early August.

    1. Mets Daddy says:

      We get it. You don’t like deGrom but love BVW

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