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Mets Won’t Stand By Carlos Beltran Like They Have With Abusers

There is going to be a lot to be said here and other places about the New York Mets and Carlos Beltran “mutually agreeing to part ways,” but one thing remains clear – the Mets were unwilling to weather the storm and stand by their manager.

Despite the Mets profiting from a Ponzi Scheme and selling the team to a person who has paid the largest ever insider trading fine, this is apparently where they draw the line.

Perhaps, it shouldn’t come as a surprise with Jeff Wilpon having been alleged to fire a pregnant employee because he was not married, but the Mets have stood by their people who have committed violent acts against women.

In 2004, the Arizona Diamondbacks fired Wally Backman before he managed one game after discovering his previous arrests for drunk driving and for a fight with his wife.

He’d be unemployable for Major League teams for years, and he’d have to resort to managing in the independent leagues. Eventually, the Mets brought him back to the organization and gave him a job for six years.

The Mets found a way to give him a second chance and stand by him. That applied even as he pushed Jack Leathersich‘s physical limits and might’ve had a significant role in Leathersich’s career altering injuries.

In 2015, Jose Reyes was arrested for a violent altercation in their Hawaii hotel room which led to her being taken to the hospital for treatment. For this altercation, he was suspended for 51 games and released by the Colorado Rockies.

Later in that 2016 season, the Mets signed him. They then picked up his option for 2017, and despite his being among the worst players in baseball that year, they signed him to return to the Mets in 2018.

Despite Reyes’ involvement in his wife being treated in a hospital, his poor play, and his publicly pushing for more playing time, the Mets not only kept him, but we also saw Reyes nominated for the Marvin Miller Award.

Backman and Reyes are not the only two individuals who the Mets have stuck by through the years when it comes to improper and violent acts against women. There’s other players, and Steve Phillips survived sexual harassment allegations.

Through it all, one thing is clear – if the Mets employee harmed a woman, the team would unquestionably have that person’s back even when no one else would.

For anything else, they’ll just see which way the wind is blowing. That’s why Beltran was fired before getting an opportunity to manage the team, and it’s why Reyes was celebrated by this organization.

14 thoughts on “Mets Won’t Stand By Carlos Beltran Like They Have With Abusers”

  1. Blair M. Schirmer says:

    Yesterday I put $100 on “Beltran will be fired” after I realized the Mets FO would be endlessly dogged by questions like “During his interviews you would have asked Beltran about his role in sign-stealing. So you either knew Beltran was already lying to the press about his role in stealing signs and you hired him anyway, or Beltran lied to you in order to get the job. Which is it?”

    The reason his firing took even this long was because the lawyers needed to get together and haggle money while drafting the NDA.

    I’m not glad to see Beltran go in this fashion even though I felt his hiring was a significant mistake on the grounds that (1) the Mets needed a very experienced manager to balance the ineptitude of the Wilpons and to balance Van Wagenen’s inexperience, and (2) that Beltran, for all the nice things said about him, never uses language in a way that evinces anything like deep or layered or nuanced thinking about the game.

    I’m not surprised by most of this, btw. This is incredibly Mets. The only thing that surprises me, really, is that the Mets didn’t drag it out for weeks before firing Carlos.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      I’m guessing it didn’t drag on because Jeff and BVW were called in to the commissioner’s office to discuss it.

  2. Oldbackstop says:

    You are so far in the ethical woods you better build a lean-to, dude.

    You crazily cite oranges to elephants. None of that stuff went to the basic competitive core of the game, the integrity that fans count on when they follow teams, play fantasy baseball (untold millions $$), legally wager on games (untold millions $$) study and debate statistics, choose All Star teams, choose Hall of Fame inductees, but jerseys, attend games…not a complete list at all.

    Going forward, hopefully for centuries, analysts are going to have to do separate formulas on stats and teams that played the Astros at home in 2017.

    Altulve had his best year and won the MVP and batting title and All Star berth. Who was second in those elections? Springer saw a jump in his stats and his first All Star game. Correa saw a jump in his stats and his first All Star game. Who lost out on those All Star games due to those Astros? 1/3rd of the AL All Stars in 2017 were Astros.

    The Yankees, Dodgers and Red Sox have the right to be absolutely furious at the Astros for getting knocked out by the cheating BlackStros.

    Here was the Astros performance in the 2017 playoffs:

    8-1 at home with their cameras.
    2-6 without their ability to electronically cheat.

    Furthermore, those two road game wins were one 11 inning nail biter, and one crazy ninth inning with both teams scoring.

    So the BlackStros came within a red hair of going 0-8 away from their cheating devices, and 8-1 with them.

    Next, you undoubtedly want to play down Beltran’s role. The report said he was among a group of players who started the system. The Athletic said he played “a key role.” Whatever . The bigger issue is that he was the team leader, a 40 year old show-in Hall of Famer. He is enthusiastic about it….what player is going to stand up to him?

    Now let’s look at the fallout. 49, 50 men ( including churn in the roster, coaches, employees) are smeared horribly. They go from the heroic World Champions to the BlackStros. Their obituaries will lead with that instead of World Champion.

    Then, Beltran lies to the media, and I assume lied to the media to get the job. Okay, maybe he is going to protect his teammates. But NO…he rats them all out..”full cooperation.”

    He is a villain, a leader stupid enough to think t hff at 40 guys who will eventually leave the team, unhappily is the usual situation, and keep their secret. You could have guessed that a pitcher, on the face of it not benefiting, would be the one to flip. And Fiers did.

    What a leader of men. What great judgement. What character and integrity. What honesty.

    That’s MD’s hero he wants leading the Mets.

    If I were Beltran, and I wouldn’t be, I’d get out of town just to avoid being lynched by Yankee fans.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Your talk of integrity falls well short when you’re so dismissive of domestic violence

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        Where are your articles on child abuse? Oh dear…you must be racist too.

        I’d change the subject too if I was face planting like you this week…

        1. metsdaddy says:

          Again, you want to be dismissive of what the Mets do and do not support.

  3. Oldbackstop says:

    There is an SNY roundtables on that is saying exactly what I said:

    1 Even without a single piece of “news news,” which is ridiculously improbable, this will be a story in every city they visit all year.

    2. During all that period, especially when new news hits, the Wilpons will be barraged and criticized for their lack of vetting, why they kept him, a million other excellent and relevant questions that they will look terrible ducking.

    3. Supposedly, Beltran walked in said just wasn’t up for this…the continual press will cement this as his legacy. If he slips away for awhile…well that’s best…

    PR-wise, this is a no-brainer. I’m shocked and disappointed and unsuprised that you ignored my warnings that you would look the fool if your blog was silent.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      There is a blatant falsehood there. Beltran wanted to continue on as manager and thought he could still do the job.

      I’d also note it’s stupid to run your organization from a panic from the short term PR panic. Anyone who has seen anything in sports knows this would blow over quickly.

      Mike Vaccaro, an actual reporter, said that. I’d also note looking across sports it’s the same way. People stopped talking about Vick and the Patriots multiple cheating scandals.

      Stuff like this dies down and very quickly ceases to be a story. Saying otherwise is just propping up your own false narrative.

  4. Oldbackstop says:

    Bottomline, he is a liar and a cheater, and at a atomic bomb level.

    One of us might cheap by kicking our ball out of the rough in golf. Beltran cheated to win the World Series.

    You might lie to your wife about stopping for a beer on the way home. Beltran lied to major media in national headline stories.

    He is a liar and a cheater on a truly monumental scale. And you want him as manager of the Mets.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Yes, Beltran and the entire 2017 Astros cheated. There’s no way to argue otherwise, nor will I.

      What I will say with respect to Beltran is he remained a leader, and he’s been a an intelligent, good, and charitable person throughout his life. No, this doesn’t excuse what he did, but rather, it’s a more complete view of the man, a man who is very possibly worthy of redemption.

      I’d also note we don’t know what everyone was doing. You start a dangerous premise when you presume the Astros were the only team doing anything.

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        ****he remained a leader, and he’s been a an intelligent, good, and charitable person throughout his life****

        He remained a leader by lying to the Wilpons and the media and fans about what he said? And then he showed his leadership by ratting out all the Astros?

        What exactly does one have to do to be a stupid, lying cheater in your mind? Seem basically impossible.

        He should be charitable, he made almost a quarter of a BILLION dollars in his playing years. Charitable is a good tax stance.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          On the one hand, you want him to tell the Wilpons about the scandal, and on the other, you call him a rat for telling the truth as directed by the Wilpons.

          Then, you dismiss his charity which has done a great deal of good.

          Overall, you just don’t like him, which considering your love of the Wilpons and BVW, reflects well on him.

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            Everybody who has made over 100 million has a charity, it is good business all around. You got your panties soaked when Alonso donated his All Star award….there are PR guys and managers behind all these guys banking on the reactions of rubes like you.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            People should be commended for doing good things.

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