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Robinson Cano Deal Failed So Mets May Try It Again

You have to almost admire the Mets stubbornness/stupidity. In 2019, Robinson Cano and Edwin Diaz combined for a -0.3 WAR, and Jarred Kelenic is currently rated by MLB Pipeline as the 13th best prospect in the game. That trade could not get worse, especially when Cano’s contract will prevent the Mets from re-signing Wheeler, and they don’t have Justin Dunn to replace him in the rotation.

Despite how terrible this trade went, it appears Brodie Van Wagenen and the Mets are going to be willing to go down this well again as it is being reported the Mets are at least contemplating obtaining Josh Hader and Ryan Braun.

That’s right. The Mets are looking to obtain a relief pitcher coming off a great year who is nearing his arbitration years and a mid 30s former All-Star who has had a PED suspension. Seeing how the Mets have conducted business since Brodie Van Wagenen was named the General Manager, it should come as no surprise that both players are represented by CAA.

The script is even following the same pattern with Jeff McNeil‘s name being dangled out there as someone who may be included in the trade. When you break it down, it is really quite bizarre just how similar the script for the Cano trade and a potential Hader trade are following one another.

What is scary about this isn’t just that the Mets are contemplating this trade, but it is the fact is shows Van Wagenen isn’t even learning on the job. Really, it is one thing to make a mistake as bad as he made with the Cano trade, but it is a whole other thing to refuse to acknowledge that as a mistake and change your process.

He is apparently still hunting his former clients, and he is still overvaluing relievers and players on the wrong side of 30. This is a complete dereliction of his duties, and you wonder how the Wilpons can sit idly by and watch this happen again.

Between the Mets not being able to afford free agents and the team looking to basically repeat last offseason, you have to look long and hard to find real hope for optimism that the Mets could truly be World Series contenders in 2020.Ro

24 thoughts on “Robinson Cano Deal Failed So Mets May Try It Again”

  1. Pal88 says:

    If McNeil is going, so will I and I’d bet many other fans…. period

    1. metsdaddy says:

      Sad part is they won’t

  2. Oldbackstop says:

    “We don’t even have Justin Dunn to replace him in the rotation?”

    Sure we do. We have you, me, or anyone off the street. Dunn has 6 innings above AA ball. His ceiling was never more than back of the rotation. Here is how his major league debut went:
    ‐—–
    “He was called up to Seattle when rosters expanded in September and made his debut on September 12th, giving up 2 runs in two-thirds of an inning in an abbreviated start against the Cincinnati Reds. He was sleted to only be the opener, but had a rough go of it, as he walked the bases loaded while allowing three stolen bases, allowed a sacrifice fly, walked the bases loaded again, allowed another sac fly, issued another walk, and was removed in favor of Zac Grotz.”
    ‐———

    That is our number five starter?

    1. metsdaddy says:

      You’re completely lost

      1. Oldbackstop says:

        You, as usual only have the ability to dash off insults from your fry cook midday shift at McDonalds.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          You’ll notice no one is laughing

  3. Oldbackstop says:

    McNeil would have to bring back a star. JD has such a high ceiling we would be selling him low. I could easily see JD batting .310 vext year with 35 home runs an an average LF with backup capabilities at third and first.

    Dom simply is at the very top of his value coming off his 2019. Nobody will want him as an outfielder, and he won’t get time to improve his reputation at first base. It is the move of a friend to get him to an AL team now. He simply has no role with the 2019 Mets as constituted.

    We trade Alonso is some sort of blockbuster, yeah, Dom is my boy, write him in at first base in ink.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      You’re continued confusion between Dom and JD is really ponderous

      1. oldbackstop says:

        There is no confusing Dom and JD. JD had higher slashes across the board with twice the plate appearances in 2019. In left field in 2019 JD had a .980 fielding percentage compared to Dom’s .940.

        JD career: .275 .338 .468 .805
        Dom career: .236 .295 .450 .745

        JD positive career WAR, Dom negative career WAR

        No confusion here.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          It’s funny how you completely miss context and talent level

          1. oldbackstop says:

            Dom is a 6 foot tall guy who has already lost control of his body twice ballooning to 260. Is that going to get better with age?

            JD plays four position and pitches…well….won the 2018 AAA batting title last year at .347. and looks like Adonis. Fat Dom the same year in the same league in AAA slashed .258/..328/.380/708

            Explain the context. Explain the talent. You are making a fool of yourself.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            Thank you for proving you don’t know what you are talking about.

          3. Oldbackstop says:

            Really? Which one would you get a better return for in a trade? Which one does the market value more?

            If anyone still reads this blog, does ANYONE out there agree that Dom is a better player?

          4. metsdaddy says:

            Dom would because he’s an everyday player who can actually play a position.

  4. oldbackstop says:

    Oh, in search of WTF you are thinking, I checked, they are both arb eligible 2022, FA 2025.

    You’re problem here is played out again and again — you have a mancrush on anyone brought up through the farm.

    1. metsdaddy says:

      My problem is I understand what’s happening, and I don’t buy false narratives

      1. oldbackstop says:

        You are a poop poop head who has said literally not offered a single fact to assert Dom is better than JD beyond mere ego assertion.

        JD is better in the field, he is better hitting for average, he is better hitting for power, he is a better athlete, he is a far harder worker, he is better looking, he is faster. He proved it in the same AAA league as Dom last year. He proved it again on the same Mets team in 2019.

        Give me ONE attribute, beyond your mancrush, that points to Dom being a better player than JD. You can’t. All you can say is you are smart.

        1. metsdaddy says:

          Dom is a better hitter and fielder, and he’s younger.

          1. Oldbackstop says:

            He is neither, by actual metrics. What stat makes you think he is a better hitter? What s t’s at makes you think Dom is a better fielder? He iui s younger, and his tubby little body is 90 years old. He could maybe do a 6 40 chasing an ice cream track.

          2. metsdaddy says:

            You’re trolling

          3. Oldbackstop says:

            Trolling, is when someone continually makes idiotic statements then dodges efforts to support them. The troll makes these silly statements — Dom is better than JD — just to cause dissent.

            That is you. MetsTrolly.

          4. metsdaddy says:

            I make factual based arguments. You distort truth to try to goad people. That includes your purposefully attacking players I like and making false statements about Don’s current weight and health.

          5. Oldbackstop says:

            JD is better in the field, he is better hitting for average, he is better hitting for power, he is a better athlete, he is a far harder worker, he is better looking, he is faster. He proved it in the same AAA league as Dom last year. He proved it again on the same Mets team in 2019.

            Period. Indisputable facts.

          6. metsdaddy says:

            Nothing you said were facts, and they’re not supported by evidence.

            Continue trolling.

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